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Solo Tanks
« on: May 27, 2018, 02:50:18 PM »
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Disney and Lucasfilms's Solo: A Star Wars Story topped the Memorial Day holiday weekend box office, but the film fell well short of expectations, raising a few valid questions. Was it too soon to release another Star Wars movie five months after the last installment and was the competition just too stiff from the likes of Deadpool 2 and Disney's own Avengers: Infinity War?

With an estimated $83.3 million over the three-day weekend, Solo: A Star Wars Story is the weekend's #1 film and while Disney is currently anticipating a $101 million, the question remains as to whether it will be able to bring in enough to reach $100 million over the four-day holiday frame. Disney entered the weekend projecting a performance anywhere from $130-150 million for the four-day weekend and with a reported $300 million price tag before prints and advertising this weekend's performance is extremely disappointing.

While competition from Deadpool 2 and Avengers: Infinity War certainly played a role in Solo's struggles, the small, five month window between the December release of Star Wars: The Last Jedi and Solo didn't help matters. Disney released the previous three Star Wars films in December, giving each a year's worth of breathing room, this was the first attempt at a summer start and had the price tag and expectations not been so high perhaps the smaller performance wouldn't appear to be such an issue, but as it stands this would appear to be a failure from a theatrical standpoint.

One caveat to that point is the live-action blockbuster landscape is relatively wide open between now and June 22 when Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom hits theaters. While Solo, Avengers and Deadpool will continue to fight for holdover audiences, should Solo hold on well next weekend it could slightly improve its position domestically. At this time, however, a $205-230 million domestic performance looks likely and its international debut isn't helping matters.

Internationally, Solo brought in a meager $65 million from virtually the entire international marketplace with Japan left as the lone major market yet to see release. Leading the way was the UK with $10.3m followed by China ($10.1m), Australia ($5.0m), Germany ($4.3m), France ($3.9m), Russia ($3.6m), Spain ($2.6m), Mexico ($2.5m), Italy ($2.2m), Brazil ($1.3m), Sweden ($1.3m) and Korea ($1.1m). The film will open in Croatia and Trinidad next weekend before opening in Japan on June 29.

For some perspective, Solo's domestic three-day debut was just 54% of the $155 million opening for Rogue One, its international performance wasn't even half of Rogue's $134.9 million overseas opening and that was without opening in South Korea and China. The top three markets for Solo compared to Rogue One show the UK opening was 48% of Rogue's debut, China was a third and Australia's opening was 46% of Rogue's. It will be interesting to see where the film goes from here as a worldwide performance anywhere from $525-575 million might be where this one ends up.

I expected this to take a dive but this is pretty bad. The break even on something like this is north of $500m so its not impossible for Disney to actually lose money here.

Obviously people truly are pissed about the current state of Star Wars.. and with good reason. The best Disney Star Wars movie to date was Rogue One and even that wasn't a modern classic or anything. The other films have ranged from decent (The Force Awakens) to horrible (The Last Jedi). The Star Wars brand was the gold standard up until the buy out but with each mediocre (or worse) outing you tarnish that brand.. especially when you machine gun out films so quickly.

Disney for their part have also done everything wrong with the backlash. Instead of taking the criticism in stride and perhaps even making changes they are instead going the Ghostbusters route of doubling-down and telling the fans that don't like it to fuck right on off.. a strategy which obviously doesn't work in the long term.

Honestly as it stands I'm done with Disney Star Wars. I don't give a fuck about Episode 9.. why should I? They killed off all the plot strands in the last one so who cares? After Solo i'm not really excited about any more mediocre spin-offs other than maaaybe the Obi-Won movie if they get Ewen McGregor back but given the current state of Disney re-casting the role with a transsexual black girl is more likely.

Politics has killed so many things in the last year.. I guess they thought Star Wars was so big they could use it as a soap box and still make money. Ooops.

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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 06:40:15 PM »
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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 05:35:55 PM »
I enjoyed Solo,  I went into it thinking I wouldn't much care for it,  I was much better than I expected to get.  I thought Donald Glover was going to be the stand out of the movie (I really enjoy his work), but the whole cast did great jobs.  The story was quite predictable couple twist I didn't see coming.  I do think the movie would have made more money if released at the Christmas time like all the other movies have been in the last few years.  Also if they wouldn't have spent so much money on reshoots from the Lord and Miller work they would have stayed in budget.   

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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 05:44:50 PM »
I saw it too this week.
I liked it too.

I thought it was much better than both "The Farce Awakens" 😀 and "The Last Jedi" but still think Rogue One was much better.

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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 01:26:51 PM »
welp they do love to take something and beat it into the ground.

One of the things that made Star Wars so huge was that it wasnt around long and it had kind of an aura about it.

Its becoming like superhero movies where a new one is popped out every few months.

People will keep losing interest...

I didnt bother to see solo (and it was playing a 5 minute walk from my house) if you had told me years ago I would pass on a new Star Wars movie I would have said you are nuts.
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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 02:57:16 PM »
Yeah driving that horse into the ground for profits.  Time will tell but usually it won't bode well.

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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 05:48:28 PM »
I wasn't especially impressed with the past couple movies and TLJ left me shaking my head.  Personally, I don't think the Solo story needed to be told, especially when there are so many other much more compelling possibilities. After the last movie, I wasn't interested.  I'm sure I'll see it eventually,  but I'm in no rush.  Besides, SW without jedi is a space movie and there's no shortage of those.  The frequency of movies isn't the problem IMO.  Marvel has shown that.  It's about the story.  If the story is good, people will come.  Just my two cents...I'm probably wrong.

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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2018, 10:18:19 AM »
Best guess (given their output) is Disney doesn't really know what it's doing with Star Wars.

With Marvel they have Feigie (sp?) in charge and he's always had an idea of where things are and where they are going.

Obviously this Kennedy woman has no fucking clue and the plan seems to be to just throw a bunch of shit at the theaters with the assumption (and up until now, not incorrect) that anything labeled Star Wars will succeed.

Honestly I'm thinking of writing everything after the sale off as non-cannon and just enjoying the old movies as even the Prequels were better than the shit we've been seeing recently.

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Re: Solo Tanks
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2018, 10:33:08 AM »

Honestly I'm thinking of writing everything after the sale off as non-cannon and just enjoying the old movies as even the Prequels were better than the shit we've been seeing recently.

I'm with you there! Although Rogue One was good and Solo wasn't as bad as Force Awakens or Last Jedi in my opinion.