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Offline NorthPortFL-Pinball

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Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« on: November 03, 2019, 04:50:49 PM »
I have a 1980 Williams Firepower. Had the sound board repaired once.  Service tech looked at the machine earlier this week since it had a 1497 code. He got it working, where it actually kicked out a ball and played (sound would not work however), but stated the pins on the CPU and Driver boards are very bad and need to be replaced and that the game may very likely act up again. Sure enough, about 20 mins later we fired up the game. It powered up, but would not kick the ball out and would not start a game.

The service rep stated he could replace all of the pins on the CPU and Driver board, which there are a lot of them. He normally "does not" recommend replacing the boards, but in my case due to the condition he saw, he thought it may be a more cost effective to replace the CPU and Driver boards, as well as get an Inkochnito Bridge board to replace the recifiers in the lower right side of the cabinet (I guess this would prevent a possible fire hazard).  He indicated the Power supply board does not need to be replaced, as he can fix that.  Repairing or replacing the sound board and Speech board was my option.

So my question is would you repair boards that are almost 40 years old, or replace per what I stated above?

Thank you.
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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 04:56:45 PM »
Replace anything that you can electronic wise and save the old stuff.
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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 05:13:02 PM »
is the game a long time keeper for you?

i hate system 6 boards. i'd replace them with an all-in-one replacement. actually, if it was me, i'd never own a system 6 game.

good luck.

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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 05:56:54 PM »
is the game a long time keeper for you?


Yes, I plan to totally restore Firepower and keep it a long time.
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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2019, 08:59:39 AM »
Yes, I plan to totally restore Firepower and keep it a long time.

In that case, I would go for new replacement boards.  They will outlive you most likely.

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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2019, 09:02:18 AM »
In that case, I would go for new replacement boards.  They will outlive you most likely.

you have a lot of faith in rottendog. :P

but for a keeper, i'd replace the problemsome boards in that machine as well. you can sell yours as "working" to get some money towards the replacement.
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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2019, 06:59:21 PM »
Ok, thanks everyone. Appreciate your expertise and opinions.
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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 11:12:16 PM »
Buy a replacement board then send old boards to Clive’s at coin op cauldron to get fixed. Have the tech fix the power board and do the necessary mods to prevent any fire issues.
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Re: Repair or replace boards in Firepower
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2019, 12:37:49 PM »
If its a keeper then replace with the Kohout boards or Swemmer version of the Williams system 6 mpu/driver.  They are far superior to the other options.  Repairing this board set isn't very difficult, especially with the new test ROMs available if the issue extends past the sockets/40 pin connector.