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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2020, 05:35:24 PM »
According to Joe Hoft of the Gateway Pundit, "In a little over a week, groups of volunteer IT specialists, data analysts, auditors and more, have uncovered enough potential fraud to overturn the 2020 Election...These groups of Trump and America loving patriots are working on their own time and digging into election data to identify potential evidence of fraud. Despite the MSM promoting a group of ‘experts’ claiming this was ‘the most secure election ever,' the real evidence indicates a totally different story."

Just when we thought we'd plumbed the digital depths of Hell and all the ways our election could be digitally corrupted, the Army comes to our rescue and the situation is well in hand.

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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2020, 05:57:45 PM »
According to Joe Hoft of the Gateway Pundit, "In a little over a week, groups of volunteer IT specialists, data analysts, auditors and more, have uncovered enough potential fraud to overturn the 2020 Election...These groups of Trump and America loving patriots are working on their own time and digging into election data to identify potential evidence of fraud. Despite the MSM promoting a group of ‘experts’ claiming this was ‘the most secure election ever,' the real evidence indicates a totally different story."

Just when we thought we'd plumbed the digital depths of Hell and all the ways our election could be digitally corrupted, the Army comes to our rescue and the situation is well in hand.

Germany aiding or allowing us to seize servers on German soil is actually nothing new



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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2020, 10:56:12 PM »
exactly , a hoax of a hoax . everything is a hoax , too much of everything is a hoax  .lol just have fun , watch the show ,cheers

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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 02:07:29 PM »
Is it really a mystery?  Trump is actually responsible for inadvertently orchestrating the way the numbers rolled in.  Remember he spent months, years even, claiming mail in ballots were a source of voter fraud (never mind that's the way he votes).  Then while a worldwide pandemic descended upon the U.S., he downplayed it.  For both reasons Trump voters were more comfortable with in-person voting and would shun mail in voting, while Biden voters played it safe with the pandemic and voted by mail.  Pennsylvania counts the in-person ballots first, then the mail-in ballots, with rural areas, which lean Republican, coming in first (smaller number to count than urban areas) and urban counts coming in later.  In that sequence while early counts favored Trump, by the time all is said and done, that idea that Trump had a 55% lead was a false indicator of the outcome.  Everyone new beforehand, explained in all the media outlets, the later counts would lean Democratic, in all states.  There's no fraud or conspiracy, it's simple human behavior and math.

This is a more complete explanation: https://theconversation.com/how-votes-are-counted-in-pennsylvania-changing-numbers-are-a-sign-of-transparency-not-fraud-during-an-ongoing-process-149685

That was a very good effort, but as I've come to understand more and more clearly, you're just wasting your time.

They won't listen to reason or make the effort to understand how differently and in what order individual states count their votes depending on said state's laws because it doesn't fit the story. It's much easier to just posit without evidence: Any election Trump loses is rigged. Further, any election Trump wins is also rigged because he should have won by more (see 2016.)

They clutch their pearls at the sight of states showing Trump ahead on election night only to have, after the Republican-demonized absentee ballots are added (much later in several states because of Republican sponsored laws that forbid the processing of veritable mountains of mail in ballots until election day), Biden is found to have the most votes these states. Of course there was no outcry of Fraud! and Rigged Election! when on election night states like North Carolina and Ohio showed Biden in the lead shortly after polls closed only to be later overtaken by Trump. Republicans didn't cry fraud because Trump eventually won the states. Democrats didn't cry fraud because they recognize the process. Was it dead voters from the hoary underworld that turned the tide, securing an inevitable win for President Trump after all the votes were tabulated, terrestrial and supernatural alike? Nope. They just counted all the votes. Mail-in votes were allowed to be counted earlier in those states and then the inevitable torrent of Trump election day votes were processed, giving him the win. Georgia in reverse. Pennsylvania in reverse. If Florida wasn't allowed to process absentee ballots weeks ahead of time we may well have seen the same pattern with Biden appearing to take an early lead only to be swamped by Trump's day-of votes.

It's not a "rigged election"; it's "counting all the votes." But NC and Ohio wasn't fraud and Georgia and Pennsylvania was because Trump won in those and lost in these. They're not arguing in good faith will continue to avoid doing so because they don't have to. Congressional Republicans do not. The President does not. So why should they? And trying to convince them to come to that particular table is just a waste of time.

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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2020, 05:52:31 PM »
Each party is guilty of not accepting things.

In 2016 the Democratic party along with the anti-Trump crowd certainly didn't accept Trump's victory without strenuous objection for the last 4 years. Some may recall there were a lot of Democrats complaining back in 2000 with Bush v. Gore.

So yes, it would be fairly ironic that the Democrats are now acting in shock and awe that anyone dare contest their results.   

It seems in every election cycle that the losing side always think some shenanigans occurred by the winning side or that something was unfair or there needs to be election reform etc. 

The whole political charade gets old. 
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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 06:41:42 PM »
As a registered independent I feel free to say both parties are a bunch of liars and hypocrites. The Democrats are more blatantly evil and the Republicans are a bunch of pussies.

I would say that anyone who does not get a stinky whiff of a heavy strangeness and likely bigly fraud here is kinda just being a Biden homie. I get it, you hate Trump but damn strange days indeed with this election.

The more interesting question to me is what happens if this gets overturned at the Supreme Court level? I would not be shocked if that is the outcome personally. Kinda would be cosmic justice for the shit they put Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas through (Biden and Kamala personally led the nastiness there).

Leftist heads will explode and we will see a ton of rioting for sure. They will forget about their sudden desire to heal the nation for sure. But how do things get back to normal after that? Even the new normal where Russia is guilty of everything but our toilet paper shortages. I don't see getting back to the new normal either.

Conversely if Trump fails to overturn how do we have a working democracy when suddenly half the population believe the entire system is a sham? When the idea of America is gone for half the country I think we are fucked.

Interesting times for sure, scary times. Scares the fuck out of me — I will not deny it. Never seen such brazen lunacy and criminality in politics in my life. I am loading up on ammo, TP, and food personally and putting off all major investments till this comes to a head.

Civil War maybe ahead and Soros will laugh all the way to the bank on his shorts. Just another day at the office.

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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 07:29:38 PM »
Both mainstream political parties are as corrupt as the day is long.  Both mainstream political parties serve the same types of people, and it "ain't" us.

One side is clearly more vile and dishonest than the other at this moment in time - I'll leave that up to the reader to decipher who I mean.

That said; accusations and statements were made long before the election occurred indicating there would be fraud.  This was the excuse in case things wouldn't go their way. 
When one side brings forth an accusation or strong accusations, they better present evidence indicating their points.  This hasn't happened.  At least this hasn't happened enough to indicate widespread fraud that would upend an election.  People are being duped over and over and believing unsupported nonsense. That Kraken release sure went over like a whimper.  Cry Wolf much, Sidney?

When are people really going to grow up and stop believing what we've been force fed our entire lives about just about everything?
People are filled with bias, hate, greed, and fear and this has created an obvious love to believe what they want to believe in their own echo chamber/s.

Could it be the simple fact is Americans are divided by design to keep us from revolting against those really in control?
Think about those that never seem to suffer and always seem to come out ahead or wealthier.  Why aren't the people focused on them instead of hating each other (other pawns)?

I also do not believe people understood the election laws by state, (they're all different) nor do many understand demographics and voting demographics.

As with most of these forum postings few minds will be changed regardless of factual presentation.  We live in a sad state.

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Re: 2020 Election Betting Contest
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 11:39:52 PM »
Each party is guilty of not accepting things.

In 2016 the Democratic party along with the anti-Trump crowd certainly didn't accept Trump's victory without strenuous objection for the last 4 years. Some may recall there were a lot of Democrats complaining back in 2000 with Bush v. Gore.

The primary issue with the 2000 election is that Gore won the popular vote, but lost the election.  Those that didn't like the outcome learned of a side-effect of the electoral college, and frankly had to accept it because that's how our election process works.  The outcome of that situation is 15 states so far confirmed in the National Popular Vote movement.  Change takes a while, people are impatient, but we knew all that.

This election is different though.  Biden won both the popular vote and the electoral college by a wide margin, so there's nothing substantial to contest considering decades of recounts have proven the initial tallys to be very accurate.  We knew in advance that the politicians were all geared up to exercise their law degrees in court, so all we can do as citizens is let them work it out while we'll go on with life.  covid life.  ;D
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