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Beware of this buyer!
« on: February 09, 2011, 01:31:47 PM »
Just had to go through a buyer dispute with PayPal due to some 19yo kid in California saying I sent him a damaged Neo Geo multi-cartridge.  PayPal decided to side with him instead of me, even though it was clearly sold as-is, but was working fine when it left my hands.  I'd suggest not selling anything to arcadenova on Ebay, aka Sebastian Saldana, aka Ramon Garcia.  Yeah, two names associated with his PayPal and Ebay account.

As for PayPal, I've sent them a rather lengthy letter detailing the faults in their lack-of-findings and demanded they re-investigate the case.  I have a feeling I'll be permanently closing my PayPal account soon here if they're going to side with kids over common sense reasoning.
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 01:34:31 PM »
 i wish you the best    >:(

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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 01:35:26 PM »
That sucks man... GL.

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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 02:05:46 PM »
yet again the buyer wins wins with ebay, he gets the item, refund and screws you, this happened to batman, and I think the buyers know how to play it now, sorry to hear that, and hope you get it back in your favor
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 02:10:34 PM »
It's funny you mention that Mick, I have a small update.  PayPal is having the person ship it back to me, but having that person pay for it.  PayPal won't give them the money back until I receive the item.  That's the only good thing that's come out of this so far.  I'm a frickin PayPal Advantage member (spend more than $5000 through them per year), but that obviously means nothing to them even though they say they side with Advantage members and provide better service.  Uh huh.   ???
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 02:16:30 PM »
he can ship anything back to you, an empty box, as long as he has proof of shipping and its received back to you, thats good enough for paypal, so whilst you might get something back, they will get a refund and money back and all he is out is cost of shipping, been there and lost out like that, and as they have proof its back to his word/your word, never a win win for you with ebay/paypal I think  >:(
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 02:22:23 PM »
I hear ya.  I did a search on his Ebay id as well as feedback.  He hasn't even been on Ebay for two years and has already received a few negatives.  Go figure...I'm just going to post up here the rest of my stuff I was going to put on Ebay.  I probably won't get as much as I want for most of them, but at least I know you guys are cool to deal with.  Look for a for sale thread from me sometime within the next 2-3 weeks.  I've been having to sell a bunch of things due to some sudden vet and medical bills we had to incur over the past 7 weeks.  That's never fun.
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 02:35:25 PM »
sorry to hear that, and can sympathise with you on that, hope all gets better for you, and that  :)
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 02:49:47 PM »
Thanks man.  Almost bounced back.  Had to throw the whole tax return at it too. 
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 02:54:30 PM »
Pretty much the exact same thing happened to Dangerwil with some boards (worth around $200-$300 I think). He got totally screwed in that deal and canceled his paypal right afterward.  It wasn't such a bad deal then but since ebay is trying to make it so you can only do transactions with via paypal it is much more limiting now.
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 07:50:36 PM »
Honestly, I can live without Ebay if I have to.  It's more of a bad habit that leaves a bad taste in my mouth the more I use it anyway.  My wife and I buy most of our stuff of Amazon and Newegg these days.  And having the Amazon Prime shipping helps out a lot.
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 08:07:56 PM »
i'll get you all your money back no matter what. too much to discuss to type it all out.

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i've been a paypal bronze/silver/gold, and plain old bitch member over the years, all depends on what you sell. they don't care, you just get answers faster when you phone them with your bronze/silver/gold special code and paypal direct phone number.

paypal/eBay has some really neat stuff that you'll never know about unless you really lay into them via a phone call. i'm surprised i don't have a restraining order against me coming within 1000 feet of a paypal employee with some of my phone conversations with them. selling laptops on eBay really sucks, but i've learned some good defensive tricks from past scam attempts.
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 09:24:58 AM »
So the only way to to do legitimate business via eBay/Paypal you have to lay into them on the phone for every little transaction gone awry? 

Honestly I can see why eBay has it set up this way... they just feel it's too expensive to hire people to do the validations.  Maybe they need to set up a dispute center to be the intermediary for customer returns...e.g., customer returns item to an eBay address who verifies the item in person.  I don't know how else it gets done?  If it's big items like furniture, etc, that may not work so well, but at least if a buyer is returning a dresser or pinball machine, there is validation on the size/type of item via the shipper.
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 11:07:13 AM »
PayPal decided to side with him instead of me, even though it was clearly sold as-is, but was working fine when it left my hands.  I'd suggest not selling anything to arcadenova on Ebay, aka Sebastian Saldana, aka Ramon Garcia.  Yeah, two names associated with his PayPal and Ebay account.

As for PayPal, I've sent them a rather lengthy letter detailing the faults in their lack-of-findings and demanded they re-investigate the case. 

What happens if you don't give the kid the money? 
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Re: Beware of this buyer!
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 12:15:21 PM »
PayPal decided to side with him instead of me, even though it was clearly sold as-is, but was working fine when it left my hands.  I'd suggest not selling anything to arcadenova on Ebay, aka Sebastian Saldana, aka Ramon Garcia.  Yeah, two names associated with his PayPal and Ebay account.

As for PayPal, I've sent them a rather lengthy letter detailing the faults in their lack-of-findings and demanded they re-investigate the case. 

What happens if you don't give the kid the money? 


he has no choice. the cash is currently locked up thru paypal, and once paypal gets a valid track number, kid gets his money back (if he ships a rock, paypal will say "FILE A POLICE REPORT, WE DON'T GET INVOLVED...".

we've PM'd back and forth, he has the tools he needs to get his money. if not, i'll call paypal with his info and get it for him. it has to wait a couple of days, though...
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