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Title: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on September 27, 2017, 06:08:40 PM
Credit goes to the main list from Ron at Google groups (circa 2011), but I want an updated list with any additions you guys can throw in for backglass sizes…when people ask me to cut a glass (or make a custom translite), I’d like up-to-date specs and easy one click from my cell phone :)

need input such as: EM wedgehead Gottlieb games, the new spike system Stern games, Capcom, Game Plan, Zaccaria, etc. please don't google search...I cross checked the pinwiki on this subject, and it has the wrong sizes listed...as I may have in this 1st post, since I pasted the original list (but removed mistakes I found). the ones added after this post are games I own:




Stern - 2003+ / Sam System
26 X 19 1/4

WPC games - Bally/Williams games from the 90's
27 X 19

System 11 Games - same size as WPC
27 X 19

Capcom - Pinball Magic, Airborne
26 x 19 5/8

Bally and Stern - early solid state - Paragon, Supersomic, Eight Ball, Nugent, Trident
28 1/2 X 25 3/4

Bally - Small Backbox Solid State - Mr & Mr's Pacman/Centaur II/8 Ball Deluxe
25 1/2 X 15

Early Williams - Gorgar, Flash, Firepower
28 1/2 X 25 1/2

Data East - Star Wars, LAH, LW3
26 X 22 1/2

Bally - circa 1980's - Elvira, Game Show, Dr. Dude
27 X 23 1/2

Pinball 2000 - Revenge from Mars and Star Wars Episode 1
22 X 14 1/4

Misc:
Midway - Kings of Steel - 25 3/4 X 28 1/2
Midway - City Slicker - 26 1/4 x 24 5/8
Stern - Viper - 26 1/2 X 21
Midway - Safecracker - 19 1/2 X 18 7/8
Williams - Big Guns 27 X 25 1/4
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on September 27, 2017, 06:15:35 PM
Sega Large DMD games - Baywatch, Frankenstein, Batman Forever, Maverick
26 1/2 x 19 3/4
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on September 27, 2017, 06:28:03 PM
Data East small DMD -

23 1/2 x 26
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: Weeze on September 27, 2017, 07:50:36 PM
brand new Gottlieb repro King of Diamonds from Fabulous Fantasies:
20" wide
22" height
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: ibis on September 28, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
This should be pinned somewhere.
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on September 28, 2017, 10:36:07 AM
This should be pinned somewhere.

it'll stay high enough if we add to it. :)

I have used ron's list, and it has mistakes, and I've used the pinwiki, which unfortunately, has more mistakes.

I've had to recut glass for many of the erics here, because of bad info on those lists.

Capcom was listed as 26...lol. so...26 by 100? data easts were also measured wrong.

I can cut glass at my home or at the shop, but it's nice to have a database with the right numbers. ;D

and no one has listed stern star wars, or aerosmith sizes yet. I know I can find some chick-heavy translites for those.
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: Weeze on October 01, 2017, 08:09:23 PM
need anything else from my collection measured K7?
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on October 03, 2017, 12:55:42 PM
need anything else from my collection measured K7?

anything not listed, and is verified as accurate, works for me.

translite games more, because most people won't do a translite if they break an original painted glass.

but...if they do, or the game has an unobtanium glass, it is a cheap option. :)
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on February 25, 2019, 12:11:41 PM
i think i'd like to make this a sticky. ;D  and i want member input...i've found errors in other lists.


verified:
Data East/Sega Version 3 (Normal DMD games: LW3 thru Tommy): backglass is 26 x 22 1/2

Widebody Data East (Guns&Roses, WWF Royal Rumble): backglass is 26 x 20 1/4

Stern Spike DMD games (Ghostbusters, Kiss): backglass is 26 x 19 1/4

Stern Spike 2 LCD games (Star Wars, Iron Maiden, Munsters, Beatles): backglass is 16 1/2 x 25 7/8
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on March 11, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
adding a playfield glass size:

1967-1973 Bally games that use the canopy framed-in playfield glass design. marco sells standard glass for this pinball, but they don't take standard glass.

From Rocket III ('67) through Circus ('73), includes Nip-It, Hi-Lo Ace, Big Show...playfield glass size - 41 3/8 x 21 x 3/16 tempered no logo

Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: Weeze on May 29, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
dont fergit 8 ball deluxe, think you have 3 different sizes there as I found out the hard way.
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on May 29, 2019, 10:50:52 PM
dont fergit 8 ball deluxe, think you have 3 different sizes there as I found out the hard way.

8 ball deluxe, the backglass trifecta  :)

i need the '84 MDF cabinet version's exact measurement.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRePoGXYaUaqMJy3jrD0zn-qmd0QuqPw0TKLzBVQdC60mDch2kZ)




but for the normal cabinet, it's 25 3/4 x 28 1/2
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWQjL_ROXNn4LIKn6Po65GXYwr1KKZAcjYUjwBCyYrD7KOjyK-)




for the 1/2 sized backbox version, 25 1/2 X 15
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4RbMJpSDNwN4s4sS6sv1wB06Tqxwm8pmUMSAln9NWN6kZ2E_gMRE8ZrcjVtDROecIhF3BsmAFZHczSGMiPHhHcadSNXWuDCFTAK4Ync9gPc3XupExlg9V&usqp=CAc)
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on September 03, 2020, 03:48:47 PM
adding gottlieb system 3 (with a DMD): Backglass is 25" x 20" x 1/8"
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: ibis on September 04, 2020, 02:18:24 PM
I may need a Midway Judge Dredd soon!  Anyone have those measurements?
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on September 04, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Midway titles - Popeye and Judge Dredd, will match up to other WPC machines - 27 x 19   :)
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on October 27, 2020, 05:25:02 PM
Bally Widebody playfield glass - 27 1/2 x 43 x 3/16" thick - Fits classic Bally: Paragon, Space Invaders, Future Spa, Embryon, and Hotdoggin' (ignore Paragon listed above in the 1st post, mistake).

Stern Widebody playfield glass - 24 9/16 X 45 3/4 x 3/16" thick - Fits classic Stern: Flight 2000, Big Game, Freefall, Cheetah, Iron Maiden, Orbiter 1, Viper, and Split Second.
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on May 28, 2023, 02:27:30 PM
:)

the only reliable link to use for custom 1-off translites...
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on November 13, 2023, 12:07:26 PM
Bally Police Force - the anomaly system 11 - backglass is 27" width, 26 1/2" height.
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: Marcel G on February 06, 2024, 06:34:49 PM
Data East Laser War maybe others proceeding with alphanumerics..  28-1/2 x 20-3/4 

Williams Big Guns..  26-3/4 x 25

Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: Weeze on February 07, 2024, 10:00:14 PM
Bally Bow and Arrow [one of my absolute all time faves}
29w
26H
Title: Re: backglass size database
Post by: k7 on February 08, 2024, 12:39:45 AM
dont fergit 8 ball deluxe, think you have 3 different sizes there as I found out the hard way.

i figured you'd like this shot. i still need to find a 1/2 size backglass so i can line up all 3 versions:

(https://i.ibb.co/THKYDFZ/2-8-ball-deluxe-backglass-differences.jpg)