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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2019, 03:55:57 PM »
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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2019, 07:33:20 PM »
Rush sold a gazillion more records than Primus, so, there's hope.

I don't think this is why Stern did Primus, because of record sales.  Just like Beatles, I am sure the Primus was a one-off steered by either Les Claypool himself or his marketing firm teaming with Stern.  I wouldn't be surprised to see other boutique machines come out of Stern, no different than Can Crusher/Pabst, etc..... The reality is, if you have enough money, you can have any pin you want created by Stern as long as they can produce enough/sell enough to cover their own costs and make X profit(license pending of course, which Beatles and Primus own themselves).

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2019, 08:49:07 PM »
Yes, a run of only 100 Primus tables is certainly more of a marketing or a megalo trip than a economic equation. I think The Beatles pin was a better profit maker.
Anyway, I tend to think that Rush is a little underground, so if they don't follow the Primus way, you guys are good for retheming a Rock Encore

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2019, 08:30:14 AM »
Anyway, I tend to think that Rush is a little underground

I think Rush is far less underground than Iron Maiden. You can still turn on any classic rock station in the U.S. and hear Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Subdivisions, and others 100 times before Run To The Hills is played even once.

I'm not comparing the two bands at all or the songs - I love them both. I'm just saying I think Rush is more in the public's consciousness than Iron Maiden is.

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2019, 09:10:33 AM »
I think Rush is far less underground than Iron Maiden. You can still turn on any classic rock station in the U.S. and hear Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Subdivisions, and others 100 times before Run To The Hills is played even once.

I'm not comparing the two bands at all or the songs - I love them both. I'm just saying I think Rush is more in the public's consciousness than Iron Maiden is.

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Man... How old are you guys?  Rush was cool 30 years ago with the hippie crowd.  The hipsters of the 70's.
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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2019, 09:12:56 AM »
I think Rush is far less underground than Iron Maiden. You can still turn on any classic rock station in the U.S. and hear Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Subdivisions, and others 100 times before Run To The Hills is played even once.

I'm not comparing the two bands at all or the songs - I love them both. I'm just saying I think Rush is more in the public's consciousness than Iron Maiden is.

***also secretly hoping that Gary Stern follows this page and agrees with my logic here***



I don't disagree, I think Rush is a bigger household name, but honestly....IM is a bigger band.  Yes, Rush started about 7 years before IM, but at this point IM has continually done world tours, stretching two to three years at a time, for the past 40+ years.  They never stop, they sell out most all venues, and have had one of the top 5 biggest followings in rock music history.  Rush stopped touring recently, but Im not sure they covered the amount of dates IM have done on that kind of a global scale unless it was in their heyday??  The other thing IM has going for them is the tempo of the music as well as the themes, artwork, and imagery.  All conducive to creating a nice overall package for a fast paced pinball machine.  Love RUSH, but not sure they have all the pieces to making a dedicated mass-produced Stern title.  Honestly, I think a RUSH title could easily kick ass as a re-theme for a solid state title, say Baraccora?  Maybe something similar?  Now Id be down for that!

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2019, 09:16:45 AM »
Man... How old are you guys?  Rush was cool 30 years ago with the hippie crowd.  The hipsters of the 70's.
Maybe I’m old but Music from today is awful compared to....


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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2019, 09:25:11 AM »
Maybe I’m old but Music from today is awful compared to....


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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2019, 09:28:35 AM »
I don't disagree, I think Rush is a bigger household name, but honestly....IM is a bigger band.  Yes, Rush started about 7 years before IM, but at this point IM has continually done world tours, stretching two to three years at a time, for the past 40+ years.  They never stop, they sell out most all venues, and have had one of the top 5 biggest followings in rock music history.  Rush stopped touring recently, but Im not sure they covered the amount of dates IM have done on that kind of a global scale unless it was in their heyday??  The other thing IM has going for them is the tempo of the music as well as the themes, artwork, and imagery.  All conducive to creating a nice overall package for a fast paced pinball machine.  Love RUSH, but not sure they have all the pieces to making a dedicated mass-produced Stern title.  Honestly, I think a RUSH title could easily kick ass as a re-theme for a solid state title, say Baraccora?  Maybe something similar?  Now Id be down for that!

As much as I think some of the 2112 imagery is awesome, I totally agree that the art package for a Rush pinball would never be able to rival what Stern was able to do with Iron Maiden.

Again, I'm not knocking Iron Maiden the pinball or Iron Maiden the band. I love the music and I love the pinball. And your comments about the World Tours totally makes sense - I was thinking about it more along the lines of radio airplay, but your point is valid and I agree with it.

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P.S. Re-themes blow ... the Beatles re-theme of SeaWitch is probably the best example I can think of and even that was only fun for about 20 minutes. And the Primus re-theme of Whoa Nelly is ... essentially ... an unplayable pile of steaming dog poop.

I'd rather see no Rush pinball made than a shitty re-theme.
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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2019, 09:45:18 AM »
Never heard a IM song on radio, but everybody wear the tshirts with Eddie since the 80s (at least in Europe).
Never heard of Rush before the Archer's jokes and Steve 's posts, but i'm a recent resident in the US.
Anyway, Mr Stern, if you read these lines, I support a Rush pinball. And please do the Archer' s retheme of IM and take all my retirement money.

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2019, 09:48:10 AM »
Yes.  That's what the old people say.
Either that or young people’s ears need checking.


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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2019, 10:05:10 AM »
Either that or young people’s ears need checking.


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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2019, 11:37:09 AM »
You forgot to say... Get off my lawn!  :)

Honestly i'm not THAT old lol but I find most new music too synthetic is all.

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2019, 12:06:17 PM »
Cool now we're debating music  ;D

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Re: What table should Stern make next?
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2019, 12:19:03 PM »
Re-themes blow ... the Beatles re-theme of SeaWitch is probably the best example I can think of and even that was only fun for about 20 minutes. And the Primus re-theme of Whoa Nelly is ... essentially ... an unplayable pile of steaming dog poop.

I'd rather see no Rush pinball made than a shitty re-theme.

I don't mind Beatles, I think its fairly decent.  Id never pay for one!  Its worth $4,500 to me, not 8k! lol  I get what your saying about re themes, its can be hit or miss for sure!  The only solid one I can think of is Family Gay/Shrek.