Author Topic: Stern SAM pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead  (Read 167 times)

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Stern SAM pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« on: October 01, 2024, 02:46:53 PM »
what am i looking at? just want a 2nd opinion.

flipper worked for a day.

now dead:

  • cabinet flipper button does operate correctly.
  • all wiring good from visual.
  • coil doesn't fire under test menus.

i'm thinking a wire broke on the coil. possibly a bad node 8. 3rd place would to put blame on the driver board?[/list]
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Re: Stern SAM pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2024, 04:22:15 PM »
S.A.M doesn't use Node Boards.

Most likely bad Driver Mosfet on Driver PCB
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Re: Stern SAM pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2024, 09:15:01 AM »
S.A.M doesn't use Node Boards.

Most likely bad Driver Mosfet on Driver PCB

ah, spike 1 machine. my bad. spike 1 with a red LED display. ghostbusters.
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Re: Stern SAM pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2024, 10:01:18 AM »
Which version of the game and which flipper?  The version of the game may matter when diagnosing after looking at the drivers in the Pro and Premium/LE.

When Stern switched Spike, they stated using Molex connectors.  I’ve seen the crimp contacts not fully inserted into the connector housing. I’ve also seen crimp contacts, not making sufficient contact with the pins on the board.
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Re: Stern SPIKE 1 pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2024, 04:15:03 PM »
Which version of the game and which flipper?  The version of the game may matter when diagnosing after looking at the drivers in the Pro and Premium/LE.

When Stern switched Spike, they stated using Molex connectors.  I’ve seen the crimp contacts not fully inserted into the connector housing. I’ve also seen crimp contacts, not making sufficient contact with the pins on the board.

ghostbusters pro. lower left flipper. had some workable life, now 100% dead, at the coil, per the coil test.

coils, wire to the lugs, and wires and gap for the EOS all look fine (eos should not matter with this title).

sorry, i was thinking Red LED display, hence my SAM mistake.

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could the coil stop be so bad as to not operate the coil during the tests?

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Re: Stern SAM pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2024, 08:29:06 AM »
Here’s where I would start and in this order.  The fact that it worked intermittently has me leaning towards one of the first 3 issues:

1. Check coil stop (probably not it, but worth a look);

2. On Node 8, connector CN 8, check for a loose wire by tugging on drive pin 6 orange/yellow wire and 48V pin 2 gray/orange (although pins 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all gray/orange it would be the 2nd gray/orange wire in from one of the ends);if loose, it may simply need reinserting in the connector or the crimp contact may need to be replaced if the little nub that secures the crimp contact into the connector is damaged/missing;

3. Reseat connector CN5 on power distribution board and reseat the intermediate connector in the cabinet between the power distribution board and the playfield (this is what was wrong with pinballcorpse’s IMLE when everyone thought it was a node board);

4.  Swap Node 8 and Node 9 (make sure to readdress the dip switches); if this is the issue, the spinner up post should cease to work and the flipper should work; replace the node board (simply replacing Q6 may not fix the issue depending on what’s fried).
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Re: Stern SPIKE ONE pinball machine - left flipper worked, now dead
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2024, 11:52:59 AM »
Here’s where I would start xxx

awesome. thank you.

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