Mickey 17

[tufnel1530]

Another one where I would be curious what other people think... 

I'd say its worth a watch as something different.

I read that it was crazy long and they had to edit it down to over 2 hours (which is still too long) but it feels like that kind of thing where its disjointed because it was cut down. 

Sort of a jumble of political stuff, sci-fi and black comedy... some of the characters are cartoony and over the top which didn't work to me.

Dunno..  felt to me like a director trying too hard and missing the mark in most instances.

[HammysHangout ( Hammy )]

i was debating on going to see this on Tuesday with numsix, but i am probably going to wait for it to be released on streaming platform, not sure i want to spend 2hrs of my evening watching this.

[tufnel1530]

Man, I don't know... I hate to not recommend it because if people don't go out and see things like this they wont get made anymore.

I'd rather see 50 swing and misses like this than any superhero movie.

Have to admire the effort even if it doesn't really come off and loses its way.

[number six]

Saw it last night.

So Mickey 17 is an idiot who signs up to be an 'expendable' .. basically a person who gets sent on dangerous missions and is "re-printed" (or cloned) when he dies to start the process again. Not the most original SCI-FI plot but one that has potential if done correctly.

Sadly it is not.

First off the movie dumps the clone premise after the first act. If you've seen the trailer you've seen the clone part. Once the 2nd Mickey shows up that gets pushed aside and no, they don't really do anything meaningful with the fact that a person now has a clone. Instead the movie goes down this long and winding road of plots and subplots and characters that get setup but never pay off or add to the story in a meaningful way. This movie is almost 2 1/2 hours long but you could easily edit that down to about 45 minutes if you just concentrated on the things that sorta mattered.

A good portion of the film is spent with Mark Ruffalo's character which is just awful. It's a Trump / Televangelist parody and it's just as lazy as that sounds. If you've seen a movie in the last 10 years you've already seen this and there's nothing new here. They manage to get every cliche in here and it works about as well as a bad SNL skit. This is the equivalent of the effeminate gay hair dresser trope that eventually died out.

The big driving force of the last act of the film is they find the planet they've landed on is populated with Ohmu from Nausicaa and they plays out about how you'd expect but takes a really, really long time to get there. Making matters worse is the movie over explains every details because they assume the audience is stupid and maybe we all were for buying a ticket.

Bottom line this is a tedius pointless slog of a movie that wastes any potential it had. It's not funny, the meandering script kills any attempt at tension and it way overstays it's welcome. If you'd like to see a good take on Corporations exploiting Clones in a SCI-FI setting by all means look up Moon with Sam Rockwell. That movie probably didn't have 1/20th of the budget but managed to tell the same story but in a tight and compelling way.

[number six]

Man, I don't know... I hate to not recommend it because if people don't go out and see things like this they wont get made anymore.

Well this wasn't exactly original or anything.

Biggest problem is this is another case where the movie will be on streaming super fast.. I think the theatrical window on this was like 17 or 18 days.. not even 3 weeks. Why are people going to bother when they can watch it at home so quickly?

Also it was terrible.

[Waldo]

Movies just dont have the same sense of wonder anymore as they did when I was growing up. 

[number six]

Movies just dont have the same sense of wonder anymore as they did when I was growing up.

Things have changed a lot in the entertainment industry since then. It's no longer the plucky producer taking the chance on some creative. It's a bunch of committees that approve things based on wildly illogical metrics or politics.

The creators from that time that are still alive have all declined and there really hasn't been a group to replace them.

Modern 'auteurs' like JJ Abrahms are a sad stand-in for the folks behind movies during the 70s or 80s.

[tufnel1530]

Things have changed a lot in the entertainment industry since then. It's no longer the plucky producer taking the chance on some creative. It's a bunch of committees that approve things based on wildly illogical metrics or politics.

The creators from that time that are still alive have all declined and there really hasn't been a group to replace them.

Modern 'auteurs' like JJ Abrahms are a sad stand-in for the folks behind movies during the 70s or 80s.

Its all of that and also digital...

Much like the "music" business it is way cheaper and easier to make digital things now and therefore anyone with half a brain can do it, talent or not.

Directing and editing on film is a whole different thing than what goes on today much like recording to tape back in the day was for music.

Those things took refined skill and had a high barrier of entry.. not so much now.   

[Waldo]

Things have changed a lot in the entertainment industry since then. It's no longer the plucky producer taking the chance on some creative. It's a bunch of committees that approve things based on wildly illogical metrics or politics.

The creators from that time that are still alive have all declined and there really hasn't been a group to replace them.

Modern 'auteurs' like JJ Abrahms are a sad stand-in for the folks behind movies during the 70s or 80s.

So true and so sad

[tufnel1530]

So true and so sad

Don't worry .. A.I. will take care of everything. 

probably in a few years it will be writing most "entertainment".

Just look how much AI generated clickbait garbage is on you tube now.

[Waldo]

If Mickey 17 was an example of what AI is doing we are safe from it taking over entertainment for at least 10 years.  Had to be one of the worst shows I’ve ever suffered thru.