Justice League

[TheBatman]

Ummm...meh.  I try to like anything with Batman in it, but DC sure doesn't make it easy. I'll try not to do any spoilers, but there really isn't much to spoil. This movie didn't get, grab, or hold my attention in any way. All the characters pretty much had zero personality and nothing charming or appealing to me at all. And... grumpy Aquaman with a chip on his shoulder drinking whiskey and mad at the world? Well, he has nice abs so all the women give this movie a thumbs up I guess. The plot is...boom! Para demons!  No explanation, no storyline leading up to them, why or how they're there or what they want... It's like walking into a movie 1/2 hour late. And then...I felt there should have been a lot more heroes for a JL movie, at LEAST Green Lantern and Hawkman. Especially since there wasn't that much appealing about the characters they did have. And then the character that shows up about half way through, about as much appeal and personality as a rock. It was so exciting I kept dozing off, if that says anything.

If you want to see another directionless movie with some super heroes in it, this may work for you. It doesn't do much for me. Glad I saw it on my firestick, and not spend money to see it in a theatre.  I'd much higher recommend seeing "Batman and Robin: Return of the Caped Crusaders" animated movie with Adam West and Burt Ward, time much better spent for sure.

[number six]

Green Lantern was a mess. I don't think it counts now, but it still.. was a mess.
Man of Steel is one of the worst superhero movies I've ever seen. It's loud and stupid.
Batman v. Superman was a mess and it was boring.
Suicide Squad was stupid but watchable.. not good mind you.. but watchable.
Wonder Woman was OK, just OK. This makes it by far the best movie in this list.

So yeah I wasn't counting the days down to Justice League or anything. In fact I didn't realize it came out until a few days after it did.

DC saw the box office on The Avengers and tried to rush their own version out. Problem is they did everything wrong. The few movies they released sucked more than they built up hype. They didn't even bother to get movies out for half the characters and if I don't really know who Cyborg is trust me Joe Sixpack has no damned idea. I'm still confused about how they have 2 or 3 versions of each character as well.. Movie Flash vs. TV Flash? I like TV Flash why not use that guy? WTF?

Given JL actually did the least amount of money of ANY of their films I think the general audiences (Superheros excluded) felt the same way. Right now I'm on a 'wait for reviews' for ANY DC movie.. and the reviews for Justice League are a resounding "meh". It's not worth spending the money to go the the theater for "meh".

Can't wait for Avengers: Infinity War.

[Niloc]

Cyborg? Who the fuck is Cyborg? Where the hell is this guy:



That's racist, writing him out like that, pretending he never existed, and with a Thanksgiving relase? Really?

Oh wait...



Maybe it's another one of those sexual harassment things...

[TheBatman]

I think the problem is DC doesn't know how to write a good story anymore, WTF? I don't understand it, but why not just take one of the classic story lines from a comic book and make it a movie... done! Oh yeah... I guess that's what they did with Batman versus Superman... But they chose a crappy storyline!
Still, it's hard to believe that they continually can't seem to find a decent script for a movie any movie with a DC character in it. Plus, they already established a Green Lantern character and then they can even include that character in this movie? Again, WTF? I like DC characters much more than Marvel, but Marvel seems to have their shit together for the most part when making movies obviously.

[TheBatman]

Cyborg... Another wtf? He was a member of the Teen Titans to start with... But of all the countless characters that go in and out of the Justice League, they chose Cyborg instead of the Atom, Hawkman, Martian manhunter, green lantern, green arrow, etc., etc., etc... Who's in charge there and making these stupid decisions? Maybe it was a racial thing and grasping to find a black character and Cyborg is it in the DC Universe?

[SpineyNorman]

No Wonder Twins = No dollars from me...

Bah I say...BAH and fie.

[number six]

The funny thing is, if it had the Indian guy and the Wonder Twins in it.. I might have been interested.. lol.

[TheBatman]

The Indian guy and Wonder Twins were WTF'S from the 70's/80's, also had no business in the animated series and were never in the comics until they appeared on TV.  Again probably created to attract... WHOEVER they thought they'd be attracting with those additions??? "The Native American crowd is going to just LOVE this, this is going to put us over the top!".

[Niloc]

Don't forget before the Wonder Twins they had those useless regular kids with no powers and a dog. Wendy & Marvin, I think? I think it was to give kids characters to "relate to" - totally missing the point of fantasizing about being a super-hero. "You can't be Superman - but how about his useless side-kick?"

[k7]

they can't use green lantern. he's too busy making good movies.

[PinPup]

I just saw JL yesterday, didn't  expect a whole lot, but it was to me, much better than I  expected. The biggest problem for me is that Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg didn't  have a stand alone movie/origin before jumping right into the JL thing. So they had to do a lot of character set up in this first movie. I actually liked the Flash and Aquaman and even enjoyed Cyborg which is a hero I  had zero interest in before seeing the movie. I actually enjoyed the hero development aspect and their group interactions more than the fighting scenes. The same was ture of Thor Ragnaroc, liked the character interactions more than the fighting. Goldblume stole his Ragnaroc scenes. Anyway, I liked this quite a bit, really liked Wonder Woman movie. And, don't  want to spoil things, but loved Aquaman opening up in that one scene. Saw this in 3d on the big screen, maybe that makes a huge difference.

[number six]

Saw Justice League tonight.

Figured this would happen.. family in town.. they want to get out of the house.. what to do? Movie.. OK.. wait what's playing. Thor, Justice League, some movie that looks like a remake of Eric Stotlz's Mask and a bunch of cartoons. Already seen Thor so OOOKAAY Justice League it is.

First off the big problem with the DC movies is there is no investment in any of it. Right before we headed off to see this I watched the new trailer for Avengers: Infinity War. Man that trailer had me pumped up.. because I know all the characters.. there's investment there which brings anticipation. With the DC movies its basically yeah whatever. To make this work you need to build a foundation.. something Marvel did quite well. DC did not and it really hurts Justice League.

The villian is Steppenwolf. I've heard the name and knew it was more than a 70s rock band.. but I'm not familiar with the character at all. He's very generic and is given no real motivation. They even failed to build up some villain heat.. you know that moment at the start of every episode of the A*Team where the bad guys beat up an old lady. Avengers had Loki kill Coulson to get some cheap heat.. they really didn't do anything with Steppenwolf he's just sorta.. there.

On the hero front we have problems because only a few of them have had movies. Of the new cast The Flash and Aquaman are pretty cool.. once again really wish they had a movie first as they don't get a lot to do here but what time they do have is good.  Cyborg is the weak link here.. he's mostly CGI and has less personality than any of the others going for the tired 'am I a monster?' gimmick.

Bat-flek is OK as Batman once again but there's not a lot here. Gal Gadot is still fine as Wonder Woman but there are a few scenes she reverts back to her BvS speaking marbles.. maybe a re-shoot that she didn't get to practice that much? Superman feels the most out of place as his story arc doesn't make sense. In Man of Steel he murdered a bunch of people in this huge fight with Zod.. so much so that everyone hated him in Batman vs. Superman. However in this movie the world misses him like he was the comic book superman and not the dark murder alien we got originally. I mean that's the angle they should have went with from the start but it doesn't make sense in context. Also just like his death in BvS had no weight his return is also anti-climatic. We all know it's going to happen and honestly I don't care much for this incarnation of Superman anyway so having him back didn't do much for me either.

Plot wise its pretty generic mediocre stuff. It keeps away from being pure noise or boring so there's that. I'm pretty sure Joss Whedon was responsible for getting this into OK territory. You can definitely tell the re-shoots as Superman has a really funky CGI lip treatment. He definitely lightened the color scheme and tried to add some humor. They need to change Batmans costume though as it looks like crap when you actually light it.

I can't help but compare this against Avengers and how epic that movie was.. and how mundane Justice League is in comparison. It's almost like the straight to cable knock-off versus the real thing. It's a shame because the DC universe has some good stuff in it and these movies could be much, much better. Given how JL underperformed Warner Bros may be taking a step back with their plans.. that may not be a bad idea. I hate reboots but honestly it might not be a bad idea to take Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and reboot the rest of this mess.

Bottom line - yeah it's pretty much 'meh'. If you get dragged into it for whatever reason its not the end of the world but this is a red box movie at best. What really sucks is had this been Friday we could have seen the new Guillemo Del Toro movie.. curses!

[TheBatman]

And then the character that shows up about half way through, about as much appeal and personality as a rock. It was so exciting I kept dozing off, if that says anything.

Okay, at least I was trying to be careful not to give any spoilers away, like Superman returning. Since Jakk apparently didn't give a shit ... Not like it was a big surprise anyway, you can see this crappy script coming a mile away.... that's who the above quote is referencing. Yep, sucky ass, no personality, no charisma, no nothing... Sucky...Superman. Christopher Reeve he is not. Maybe if they would have cgi'd Christopher Reeve that would have really been something, but they weren't even that smart. I should have just stopped the movie at that point since it was already over, and then just got worse with this lame-ass guy showing up and adding even LESS to this story. So, they just spent two movies and a billion dollars to kill off Superman and then bring him back... and who knows why, cuz he sucks. They should have brought in a hot Batgirl and left Superman out of the whole damn thing. Come to think of it they should have left all the other Heroes out of it also and just made it another Batman movie.

[number six]

My biggest complaint about them doing the Death of Superman angle in BvS was that we all know he's coming back. They didn't even need to tease it at the end of the film.. obviously he'll be back. It's stupid to even do that really as there is absolutely no mystery or real stakes in killing him when everyone knows he'd be back for Justice League. He's all over marketing even:



But i definitely agree this Superman has no personality.

All the bits with Ma Kent and Louis Lane were also hollow for me.. I mean Louis Lane was just a plot device in Man of Steel and was she even in BvS? I honestly don't remember. It's not like the relationship they built up in the original films where it actually meant something so them being reunited was like whatever.

Also the way they brought him back here was so arbitrary and lame it's obvious there was no real thought put into it. Basically they needed him back so they did some mumbo-jumbo and he's back.. making sure to involve water so Aquaman had something to do. Wouldn't it have been easier for everyone had they just not killed him?

[scarabaeus]

Where the hell is this guy:

Looks kind of familiar, but I don't remember him.  Is that the dude who cried a little bit in the "Keep America Beautiful" commercials, when he saw people littering?