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Offline Mojo_114

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I call this Fun?
« on: July 26, 2010, 11:41:55 PM »
Eric and I did a deal for my 8 Ball Deluxe, that included a DE Star Wars basket case. As some of you know I can't resist a challenge.
I am going to update this thread with every new hurdle cleared. Maybe?
Got it to house on Saturday and opened my nightmare up.
Removed extra wires installed by some tech in S. America. One was for a counter, but the other was for -NO IDEA-.
Disconnected most of the upper playfield and traced some wires.
Realized game was not converted to 110v and did some cutting and splicing.
Plug it in and pray. NO SMOKE--Yeah!  Boards not responding. Back to computer.
CPU is wrong generation--DAMN.

Sunday--Just did a little cleaning, Eric was right. The playfield is nice under the grime, really nice. Do some research and found out what works with what and what the sound board looks like. Mine does not exist, just some connecters hanging there and a big nothing.

Monday--Dog tired from work, but I know I have a CPU somewhere. Spend an hour in a hot warehouse and find it--YES!!!
Also find a Sound Board that will work. It was in the Bally box, don't ask.
Big question, will they work or am I pissing up a rope?
Install all, plus the ROM chips, realize I need a ribbon cable and connector. Have them both in another Hidy-hole.
Turn the -O-N- switch to the on position and still no smoke--yes, but no boot. I do get a sound note, but without a full boot I won't know if it is working.
Fiddle with the ribbon cables, very easy to get backwards. BOOM, I get a Video driver boot. YES YES YES.
Reverse the info cable and get-OPEN COIN DOOR- YES YES YES! On a D.E. this means that the batteries are dead. So I am getting a partial boot.  Alas, I am tired. Next step is to pull CPU and check battery traces, I did install new batteries. And YES, I opened the damn coin door, but wiring is not looking right. Tuesday is another day.
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 06:30:00 AM »
sounds like you are having a ton of fun Jimmy

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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 07:33:26 AM »
nice sounds like fun jimmy. as for the cpu board they are work for any year you just have to switch the jumpers. :) but good work so far.
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 09:35:26 PM »
Friday
SW has booted!
DMD was starting, but not staying lit? Something internal, I have a test unit and it worked fine. Never have I had one work then flicker off, then flicker on, then off again.
It was trying to boot, but no joy. Did a close inspection and the two--four pin connectors on the left were backwards. Dumbass!
It is a first grade mistake and I made it twice this month. I must make a penance.
Next is sound. Yeah!
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 11:02:16 PM »
Making some great progress!!!  Keep us updated.

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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 04:00:33 PM »
Sat & Sun.
Got full boot, but sound was a issue.
Voltages were correct, but sounded like nails on a chalk board. Tried everything, The repair pages only address when
there is NO sound. Took a chance and reversed ROMS, Worked!  The person that labled the ROMS reversed the stickers.
Easy mistake, but time consumming.
Got about half the coils rebuilt.
Next is the flippers.
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 08:59:05 PM »
Hmm.

Good stories Mojo.

It's interesting to see other projects go thru the progression.

Good luck & happy gaming,
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 10:27:05 PM »
Have you ever seen the movie Event Horizon, The sound was like the ships log when they first played it. It would also repeat itself, so I knew something was working. I am a horror movie buff and got really creeped out. To help the creep out, While I was fiddling with cables and checking voltages. The static slows and it says LUKE, then goes quiet. The scream starts again about 3 seconds latter, and it never did it again.
I got one flipper going this evening, but realized why it was dead.  I plugged the brand new Rottendog flipper board in when I was testing the boards. Never once did I think to check the coils, they are a mess and I should have snipped every one of them.  So now I need 2 very SPECIAL transistors. Again with the 1st grade mistakes.
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 11:22:19 PM »
do you have the orig flipper board? if so, i can send you all the parts to rebuild it..
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 06:54:30 PM »
No it is a rottendog, but found the transisters. $9.00 each. FUN FUN.
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 07:13:42 PM »
k, if it had the data east, i would be happy to send you all the transistors as i have plenty of extras :o)
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2010, 11:25:54 PM »
Tues.
A little preoccupied, My son comes home Thurs., after 1 month in Austria. I do not know who is more home sick?
I did manage to get the left flipper rebuilt and started the 4 pop bumpers.
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 09:11:28 AM »
Tues.
A little preoccupied, My son comes home Thurs., after 1 month in Austria. I do not know who is more home sick?
I did manage to get the left flipper rebuilt and started the 4 pop bumpers.

Was he glad to see his bed, or ANY bed for that matter!

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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2010, 09:33:48 AM »
today is wednesday.... not thursday :) he doesn;t know what a bed looks like anymore lol
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Re: I call this Fun?
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 10:28:22 PM »
Friday,
Kid home. Finally getting some sleep.
Long time employee leaves for S.C., also leaves owing me 3.5K. All he can say is sorry. I kept his tool box and 90% of his tools. About 2.5K worth, would rather have the money. Anyone want a MATCO bottom box? He paid 4K I will take 2K, or a trade. I have to return the top box, there is still a 5K balance on it.

Cleaned and fixed all the bumpers, some caps have hairline cracks, Oh Well.
Bar motor assy is not complete, but have one in the spares box. It took some fiddling and fixing, but it works. Someone cut all the switch wires to the Bar Assy.? That is for Sat.
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